One of the smartest things I ever did was to read each and every word of the sacred and holy, oecumenical and general Synods of Trent, Vatican I and Vatican II.
Here are some fun quotes from the most recent Vatican Council that illustrate how confused our faithful, and our pastors are, on what exactly the Vatican Council said:
"In accordance with the centuries-old tradition of the Latin rite, the Latin languge is to be retained by clerics in reciting the divine Office." (S.C. 101).
"Steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them." (S.C. 54).
"The Church acknowledges Gregorian chant as proper to the Roman liturgy: therefore, other things being equal, it should be given pride of place in liturgical services." (S.C. 116).
"Other kinds of sacred music, especially polyphony, are by no means excluded from liturgical celebrations." (S.C. 116).
"Each priest shall always retain his right to celebrate Mass individually." (S.C. 57).
"The use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites." (S.C. 36).
"Absolutely no other person, not even a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority." (S.C. 22).
"Popular devotions of the Christian people are warmly commended." (S.C. 13).
"In additionn they [seminarians] must learn how to observe liturgical laws." (S.C. 17).
"The typical edition of the books of Gregorian chant is to be completed; and a more critical edition is to be prepared of those books already published since the restoration by St. Pius X." (S.C. 117).
"The texts intended to be sung must alway be in conformity with Catholic doctrine." (S.C. 121).
"In the Latin Church the pipe organ is to be held in high esteem, for it is the traditional musical instrument, and one that adds a wonderful splendor to the Church's ceremonies and powerfully lifts up man's mind to God and to heavenly things." (S.C. 120).
I think it would be more beneficial to you, particularly for the benefit of your soul, to publicly recognize that there is no confusion but a deliberate policy from the Church, leaded by the Pope, to disregard the II Vatican Council as dead letter. There is no confusion!ReplyDelete
No General Council of the Catholic Church is a "dead letter." Are you Protestant?ReplyDelete
The problem with this is that there were in the end so many loopholes, that the garbage we have now is what acually was passed off as Vatican II....and it probably is.ReplyDelete
You quited the traditional parts....but neglected to quote the more liberal parts of the Council....which have been broadly interpreted.
It's rather incorrect to pick out the positive, traditional parts of the Council...while neglecting to quote the liberal garbage which also was allowed for....and which became standard.
The Council of Trent was magnificent. It was the work of God. So too Vatican I . But Vatican II and what came from it, what has been actually approved, and what is the current practice isn't anywhere in the same leage as the holy Council of Trent.
We're talking about 2 different Churches now.
One is ROMAN CATHOLIC (TRENT), and one is "christian" (Vatican II).
"One of the smartest things I ever did was to read each and every word of the sacred and holy, oecumenical and general Synods of Trent, Vatican I and Vatican II."ReplyDelete
Well said! How I pray everyone would do this!
I would rather be a good protestant than a corrupt catholic!ReplyDelete
Let the truth be known! R.ReplyDelete
"You quited the traditional parts....but neglected to quote the more liberal parts of the Council....which have been broadly interpreted."ReplyDelete
The evil of the II Vatican Council is dual: on the one part there are the liberal texts of the council, but on the on the other hand the traditional texts of the council were deliberately ignored, and set aside, by the popes since Paul VI.
We all know and live the liberal parts. It is high time to remind Priests and Bishops there responsibility in teaching us Latin and Gregorian Chant. The traditional parts are there, if forgotten, need to be brought up and magnified. Each person should call their parish and at least inquire where there are workshops, by the Church, to learn Latin for the Ordinary as required by Vat II. Don't let it go and let them know that you know what SC states. It may just stir enough debate to do what the Council asks, on the Traditional front as well.ReplyDelete
For clarification, a corrupt catholic is a liberal catholic.ReplyDelete
Like the Bible, it is all about interpretation.ReplyDelete