Sorry...I do not mean to cause and offence...but are servers in Rome (whom are not clerics/priest's) permitted to wear the collar...and I noticed you are also wearing an actual/real priest's cassock as your sleeves appear to be lined just like those of my cassock I purchased when I was in Rome?
In Rome there are different liturgical perogatives.
However, this is universal custom: consuetudo pro lege servatur (custom is held as law) when an altar server serves Holy Mass/Divine Litrugy in any rite of Mother Church.
It always surprises me to see all the fuzz people make about the collar. Altar servers take the place of the clergy, this is the only reason they are allowed to use cassock and surplice. The collar is nothing but an accesory.
I would disagree with that statement: it's a clerical collar, meant to be worn by those in the clerical state. It is no more an 'accesory' than a mitre -it's a symbol of office.
And the cassock is not clerical? Nor the surplice? They are both blessed, vested, and regulated. You will not find one reference to the collar in any decree of the SCR. Symbol of office, nonsense.
What constitutes a sign of rank is the pettino, collaris in Latin, which is not what we call collar but the black, purple, red, or white rabbat.
No doubt the modern use of the so called clerical suit, in everything secular except the white tab or collar, is responsible for the wrong idea that the collar is somehow more clerical than the cassock and the surplice.
Now that's the coolest sight I've seen all day -- and I live in a cold climate! All I can say is, get thee to a trad seminary! :D
ReplyDeleteIt is an honour for the sacred ministers when you are there!
ReplyDeleteyou look great!
ReplyDeleteso good to see your face my son
ReplyDeleteand at the foot of the altar
what could be so good?
I love you
Mom
Nice!!
ReplyDeleteI've always wanted to get one with the slits... :D
I was curious. Can non-tonsured men wear the Roman Collar with their cassock when they serve Holy Mass?
ReplyDeleteSorry...I do not mean to cause and offence...but are servers in Rome (whom are not clerics/priest's) permitted to wear the collar...and I noticed you are also wearing an actual/real priest's cassock as your sleeves appear to be lined just like those of my cassock I purchased when I was in Rome?
ReplyDeleteJust curious...otherwise looking sharp...
RE: Altar Boy Wearing A Collar
ReplyDeleteIn Rome there are different liturgical perogatives.
However, this is universal custom: consuetudo pro lege servatur (custom is held as law) when an altar server serves Holy Mass/Divine Litrugy in any rite of Mother Church.
the cassock demands, requires, claims for the collar
ReplyDeleteSo Acolytes can wear the Roman Collar when they serve Holy Mass? They don't have to be tonsured?
ReplyDeleteIt always surprises me to see all the fuzz people make about the collar. Altar servers take the place of the clergy, this is the only reason they are allowed to use cassock and surplice. The collar is nothing but an accesory.
ReplyDeleteI would disagree with that statement: it's a clerical collar, meant to be worn by those in the clerical state. It is no more an 'accesory' than a mitre -it's a symbol of office.
ReplyDeleteThe collar is a symbol of office, and an accesory (a sweat band). Listen to what the man said about CUSTOM.
ReplyDeleteAnd the cassock is not clerical? Nor the surplice? They are both blessed, vested, and regulated. You will not find one reference to the collar in any decree of the SCR. Symbol of office, nonsense.
ReplyDeleteWhat constitutes a sign of rank is the pettino, collaris in Latin, which is not what we call collar but the black, purple, red, or white rabbat.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt the modern use of the so called clerical suit, in everything secular except the white tab or collar, is responsible for the wrong idea that the collar is somehow more clerical than the cassock and the surplice.
Anonymous of 5:25am:
ReplyDeleteIt is not merely clerical. It goes with the Cassock.
Not wearing one is like wearing a shirt with a tie, but with no collar!
Where can a surplice like that be purchased/made?
ReplyDelete