tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post8024299588690712119..comments2024-03-27T00:37:16.355-07:00Comments on Orbis Catholicus Secundus: Heretical Bishops of Vatican IIJohn Paul Sonnenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17248427382830782035noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-9360905329637251142018-06-10T08:09:12.291-07:002018-06-10T08:09:12.291-07:00Corruption comes from within....Martin Luther, Vat...Corruption comes from within....Martin Luther, Vatican II 'Pastoral' Council, 1962---------2018, from within.ssoldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865773688497355893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-33795650582934990582016-01-30T20:30:11.701-08:002016-01-30T20:30:11.701-08:00Your mom and dad told you this stuff. The facts a...Your mom and dad told you this stuff. The facts are wanting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-18964968328614771222014-05-25T14:26:39.526-07:002014-05-25T14:26:39.526-07:00If a priest or bishop is a hireling he will go to ...If a priest or bishop is a hireling he will go to hell unless he repents.<br /><br />The priest or bishop pleasing to God is one whose ministry is for Jesus Christ and his people, not for himself.Jim J. McCreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04790492811937831878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-17462552302865631822013-10-17T20:48:32.666-07:002013-10-17T20:48:32.666-07:00What are the fruits of Vatican II? What are the fruits of Vatican II? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-21965352696622690892013-09-25T07:24:42.294-07:002013-09-25T07:24:42.294-07:00MisterAl, the article does not even HINT that the ...MisterAl, the article does not even HINT that the Council caused Shannon to go astray. The headline merely acknowledges that, as a bishop, Shannon participated in the Council. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-75982726513104017322013-09-12T19:43:24.773-07:002013-09-12T19:43:24.773-07:00Pray for those who have abjured the Faith. Lesson...Pray for those who have abjured the Faith. Lesson learned: they can be surprised by grace and return to the one fold!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-3306356748236744872013-09-11T21:54:18.573-07:002013-09-11T21:54:18.573-07:00I don't believe that Vatican II caused a bisho...I don't believe that Vatican II caused a bishop to go off and do his own thing, contrary to church teaching. To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing in the council's documents concerning the clergy stating that "it's okay to go against your vows and do whatever; and to follow your instincts, not listen to God's plan." Yes, what this bishop did was terrible, he went against his ordination vows; and by all rights, he should have been defrocked and excommunicated. He sinned, and it was entirely his doing, nobody else's. To say that Vatican II was the reason this bishop sinned is stretching things a bit.MisterAlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02308693996248081384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-14943420249383387542013-09-09T09:22:44.811-07:002013-09-09T09:22:44.811-07:00"Sheen was right on his critique of Shannon&#..."Sheen was right on his critique of Shannon's performance on TV."<br /><br />Could you please tell us a little more of this? I like to hear all I can about Bishop Sheen.<br /><br />Also, you may wish to notify your readers of "Archbishop Fulton Sheen's Radio Catechism" at:<br />http://www.fisheaters.com/sheen.html<br />I am working my way through it and it is most excellent.JBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-17121024299834584532013-09-08T23:02:56.350-07:002013-09-08T23:02:56.350-07:00Vatican II Presbyterorum Ordinis gem (Decree on Pr...Vatican II Presbyterorum Ordinis gem (Decree on Priests) has a brilliant section on priestly obedience and celibacy that speaks volumes. <br /><br />"This Holy Synod likewise exhorts all priests who, trusting in Gods grace, have freely undertaken sacred celibacy in imitation of Christ to hold fast to it magnanimously and wholeheartedly. May they persevere faithfully in this state, and recognize this surpassing gift which the Father has given them, and which the Lord praised so openly. Let them keep in mind the great mysteries which are signified and fulfilled in it. Many men today call perfect continence impossible. The more they do so, the more humbly and perseveringly priests should join with the Church in praying for the grace of fidelity. It is never denied to those who ask. At the same time let priests make use of all the supernatural and natural helps which are available to all. Let them not neglect to follow the norms, especially the ascetical ones, which have been tested by the experience of the Church and which are by no means less necessary in todays world. And so this most holy Synod beseeches not only priests, but all the faithful to have at heart this precious gift of priestly celibacy. Let all beg of God that He may always lavish this gift on His Church abundantly." (PO 16)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-27619663036417743422013-09-08T17:21:58.948-07:002013-09-08T17:21:58.948-07:00Reminds me of a high ranking churchman on the East...Reminds me of a high ranking churchman on the East coast. He lied, and destroyed many people so that he could become a bishop and even more. I wonder what God will say to him on judgement day?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-87197345742276908022013-09-07T12:57:05.455-07:002013-09-07T12:57:05.455-07:00Sad part of the autobiography is that he never did...Sad part of the autobiography is that he never did have a change of heart. Always hope for a deathbed conversion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-15949621097265068362013-09-07T05:18:14.850-07:002013-09-07T05:18:14.850-07:00I found the heading title "Heretical Bishops ...I found the heading title "Heretical Bishops of Vatican II" amusing, because there were so many of them.....and most in the world for the most part are too. Austria, Germany, France, most of Italy, certainly Ireland, Great Britian, Belgium, Netherlands, Latin America, Asia, USA.....it's difficult to find a country where most of the Bishops by their actions and words are not either totally heretical, or supportive of it. This is all due to Vatican II, the vague, ambiguous way it was written, and the rampant abuses coming from it which were tolerated and then finally approved by the Vatican itself (communion in the hand, table altars, etc.).<br /><br />This Pope Francis, is perhaps the biggest disaster for the Catholic Church since the days of the corrupt Popes of Renaissance times. By actions, and even by speeches and answers to questions, he is countering time honored traditional Catholic beliefs. Certainly the way he presents himself as Pope is a total rejection of past Popes. The contract is shocking, and horrible.<br /><br />This AM, I read on the internet that a gay man wrote to the Pope, telling him how he feels persecuted for being gay. Apparently (and the Vatican is denying it....which they always do with embarrassing things which turn out to be true...the Ricca affair as example), it that the Pope called this gay man, and told him that he supported him, and that there was nothing wrong with being homosexual. Outrageous!!!<br /><br />As long as these people (Popes, cardinals, Bishops, priests, aged nuns (whose Orders will all be extinct in 10 years thank God), and elderly rank and file laity continue to force the errors of Vatican II down peoples throats, we will have crisis in the Catholic Church.<br /><br />Many good Catholics, who do not wish ill on anyone, still hope that this Pope Francis' reign is very short....shorter than John XXIII's term, and that in a few years a true Catholic in the mold of a Pius X, Pius XII, or of a Benedict XVI !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-74232115670236043512013-09-07T03:07:59.964-07:002013-09-07T03:07:59.964-07:00Thanks John, interesting article.Thanks John, interesting article.Konstantinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13701303189143549671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3181589320170374720.post-46958999619698510882013-09-06T15:27:27.350-07:002013-09-06T15:27:27.350-07:00Indeed Vatican II teaches conscience must be dutif...Indeed Vatican II teaches conscience must be dutifully conformed to the divine law itself, and should be submissive toward the Church's teaching office, which authentically interprets the law which reveals and protects the integral meaning of conjugal love (Gaudium et Spes 50).<br />He lived in a time of true social and cultural transformation. When the times they are a-changin,' it's usually not a bad idea for an ambitions young politician to be at the front of the parade of evolving public opinion. He tried to do this on the pro-condom ticket. FAIL. Gaudium et Spes 51: "Therefore when there is a question of harmonizing conjugal love with the responsible transmission of life, the moral aspect of any procedure does not depend solely on sincere intentions or on an evaluation of motives.[This is where Shannon went wrong] It must be determined by objective standards. These, based on the nature of the human person and his acts, preserve the full sense of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love. Such a goal cannot be achieved unless the virtue of conjugal chastity is sincerely practiced. Relying on these principles, sons of the Church may not undertake methods of regulating procreation which are found blameworthy by the teaching authority of the Church in its unfolding of the divine law. Everyone should be persuaded that human life and the task of transmitting it are not realities bound up with this world alone. Hence they cannot be measured or perceived only in terms of it, but always have a bearing on the eternal destiny of men." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com